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Really old topic. :shock:
Don't have a x68000 yet, but with HxC, I'll buy on for sure.

Jeff, are you planning the x68000 support?
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DFL wrote:Really old topic. :shock:
Don't have a x68000 yet, but with HxC, I'll buy on for sure.

Jeff, are you planning the x68000 support?
work in progress ;-)
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Any news about X68000 support? :D

Is it possible to use X68000 today using IMD format?
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DFL wrote:Any news about X68000 support? :D

Is it possible to use X68000 today using IMD format?
if you have some x68000 imd floppy images, this should works.
can you send me a x68000 imd file ?
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DFL wrote:Any news about X68000 support? :D

Is it possible to use X68000 today using IMD format?
additionnal informations about the x68000:

imd files should work (loading are ok with the actual software)

*.xdf and *.hdm are raw file (data sector only). To load them use the "Load Raw image" button with these parameters:
Track type: MFM
Two sides floppy
Number of track : 77
Sectors per track : 8
Sector size: 1024
RPM: 360
Bitrate: 500000
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Jeff wrote:
DFL wrote:Any news about X68000 support? :D

Is it possible to use X68000 today using IMD format?
additionnal informations about the x68000:

imd files should work (loading are ok with the actual software)

*.xdf and *.hdm are raw file (data sector only). To load them use the "Load Raw image" button with these parameters:
Ok, I'll give it a try and post the results. Thanks.
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DFL wrote:Ok, I'll give it a try and post the results. Thanks.
Jeff, doesn't work. I builded the cable following the pinouts[1][2] and converted the images in RAW format, then disabled both internal drives. The access led blinks, but the track number doesn't change. Tried some images, same result. X68000 drive doesn't appears to be only a standard drive with some extra features after all. :(

I was looking around and saw a page in japanese[3] with some logic[4] to hook a drive in external FDD port. Automatic translations doesn't help much... :(

Any thoughts on this? Thanks.

[1] http://www.gamesx.com/misctech/x68k_floppy.htm
[2] http://gamesx.com/wiki/doku.php?id=x680 ... oppy_drive
[3] http://kobaold.hp.infoseek.co.jp/old/fdd/
[4] http://kobaold.hp.infoseek.co.jp/old/fdd/images/
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DFL wrote: ... converted the images in RAW format, then disabled both internal drives. The access led blinks, but the track number doesn't change...
probably a pinout/wiring problem, or a bad jumper configuration problem.

why didn't you connect the emulator internally at first ?
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Jeff wrote:probably a pinout/wiring problem, or a bad jumper configuration problem.?
Check, double check and triple check the new cable. And tried every possible jumpers combination, DS0, 1,2,3 and Motor On.
Jeff wrote:why didn't you connect the emulator internally at first ?
The original cable is for two 5 1/4 with big edge conectors to the drives. I tried a standard 3 1/2 cable (no twist), but the extra signals became ground, so I cut these pins out. All other pins are in correct position, but nothing happens at all, just the access LED.

Tried both IMD and RAW images, with the same result.

http://nfggames.com/games/X68k/X68Drive1.jpg
http://nfggames.com/games/X68k/X68Drive2.jpg
The original cables is only an "extension" from on board controller to FDD external board passing thru both drives. There are 2 jumpers groups to set the ID in x68 drive.
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DFL wrote:
Jeff wrote:probably a pinout/wiring problem, or a bad jumper configuration problem.?
Check, double check and triple check the new cable. And tried every possible jumpers combination, DS0, 1,2,3 and Motor On.
Jeff wrote:why didn't you connect the emulator internally at first ?
The original cable is for two 5 1/4 with big edge conectors to the drives. I tried a standard 3 1/2 cable (no twist), but the extra signals became ground, so I cut these pins out. All other pins are in correct position, but nothing happens at all, just the access LED.

Tried both IMD and RAW images, with the same result.
at which track the emulator stay ?
did you try differents interface mode (amiga,pc 720, pc 1.44Mb,...) ? (Drive-> Settings->Mode)
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Jeff wrote: at which track the emulator stay ?
did you try differents interface mode (amiga,pc 720, pc 1.44Mb,...) ? (Drive-> Settings->Mode)
SD Stand Alone. Can I change this setting?

Track doesn't move since I mount the image. Track 2. Sometimes changes to Track 1 when I eject the disk and mount again.

(Check the previous message again. I updated with some links)
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DFL wrote:
Jeff wrote: at which track the emulator stay ?
did you try differents interface mode (amiga,pc 720, pc 1.44Mb,...) ? (Drive-> Settings->Mode)
SD Stand Alone. Can I change this setting?
yes in the windows software.
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Eh, interesting ;) I'm also trying to make it work. :)
I made some tests yesterday too, without any success for the moment (the emulator being connected internally).
I will maybe make some extra tests this evening, I also built the cable for an external connection just in case.
This week-end, I hope to find some time to work on it (during the VieuMikro retrocomputing event). Here I'll have the right tools to make some extensive tests.
According to various sources on the net, the floppy interface may be in Shugart mode.
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Jeff wrote:
DFL wrote:
Jeff wrote: at which track the emulator stay ?
did you try differents interface mode (amiga,pc 720, pc 1.44Mb,...) ? (Drive-> Settings->Mode)
SD Stand Alone. Can I change this setting?
yes in the windows software.
Load Disk -> Set Interface Mode (ID doesn't matter) -> Export to HFE.

Is this Correct? I'll try and post the results.
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Torlus wrote:Eh, interesting ;) I'm also trying to make it work. :)
I made some tests yesterday too, without any success for the moment (the emulator being connected internally).
I will maybe make some extra tests this evening, I also built the cable for an external connection just in case.
This week-end, I hope to find some time to work on it (during the VieuMikro retrocomputing event). Here I'll have the right tools to make some extensive tests.
According to various sources on the net, the floppy interface may be in Shugart mode.
The pinout looks like Shugart, but can't figured out how it works, and I don't saw any post saying that someone can make it work with a standard floppy without any modifications.

Well, I'll keep trying. Maybe we can make it work "together". ;)
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